GPD and JXD are two companies specializing in portable game consoles, and in recent years, they seem to have focused on ARM based platforms running Android, but GPD has consulted with Dingoonity community (registration required to access pictures) for an upcoming Windows 10 hand-held console powered by Intel Atom x5-Z8500 processor.
The company has also released preliminary specifications:
- SoC – Intel Atom x5-Z8500 / Z8550 quad-core Cherry Trail processor
- System Memory – 4GB RAM
- Storage – 64GB eMMC flash (It could change to 32 or 128GB however) + micro SD slot up to 128GB
- Display – 5.5″ capacitive touch screen; 1280×720 resolution; Corning Gorilla Glass 3; In-Cell technology.
- Video Output- micro HDMI
- Audio Output – micro HDMI + 3.5mm headset jack
- Connectivity – WiFi and Bluetooth
- USB – 1x USB Type-C port, 1x USB 3.0 host
- Battery – 6000 mAh non-removable Li-Po battery, good for 6 to 8 hours of online games.
The operating system will be Windows 10 Home, which I suppose is free of charge because the display is smaller than 9″, but the company is also looking into the possibility of providing a dual boot Windows/Android version. If you are interested in such device, but would like some changes, you can still try to influence the company’s decisions on Dingoonity forums.
Thanks to Rafael for the tip!
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Very interesting, any price info yet?
@OK
I could not find anything about price. I did not read the full 32 pages of comments though.
But since they are still trying to finalize the specs I don’t think they have decided the price yet.
The BOM cost alone ought to end up around $150-200, so an educated guess is that it’ll retail for $349-399 if they’re not too greedy, more if they want a nice margin per unit.
@TLS
Then it’s better to wait for/go for a DragonBox Pyra https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/ IMO
Game console that based on low-power, low-performance CPU? Wanted to see Crysis on this console 🙂
Well this could be exciting but when you stop to think about it ….. It’s not like the Atom cam play the latest Windows games out there and for emulators, Android games and the rest you can get a much cheaper ARM game console.
Also let’s not forget that a 7-8 inch tablet with Atom is not that expensive. Couple that with a game controller and you have much cheaper ( although not as nice and compact ) version of this.
I agree GPU is junk for gaming even if they are smart enough to go with android os that gpu is weak but on windows it is completely useless. That said it would be good for penetration testing (is 64 bit chip if they don’t lock down with 2 bit eufi) or the rare instance i need Windows like updating Garmin maps or flashing a recovery. If the price is under $200 would probably be worth putting Kali Linux on it.
@Fossxplorer
It looks like a device from the 90s..
Hello,This is kendy from GPD company.Thanks so much for your kind support for GPD!!The GPD Win is still in the design and modify process.we will try to make it fast,but we need to considering many,so it may a little slow.please be patience for it.we hope and try to make the GPD Win can meet most of you imagination.Also we need the good recommendation from you all.our official facebook is Kendy zhu.if you want to know more information,please be free to add friend with me.Or welcome to join our discuss about GPD Win on the Dingoonity forum. once i get the update information about this,i will share with you all!!
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@OK
That’s subjective isn’t it? 🙂
Anyway, i’m buying HW, not design 🙂
@Fossxplorer
Really? Omap 5? wtf even TI stop making them 2-3 years ago
IMO project is dead even before start
I hope they’ll do a 7” HD touch screen version…
This should be a good console.
@birdog
Their 64 Gig GPD XD is priced about US$ 190. I’d assume Intel-based device would be about US$ 230-270.
Hi.
About the device itself, info that GPD announced (confirmed) is the following:
Name: GPD-WIN
SoC: Inte X7-Z8500 aunque posiblemente se actualice al Z8550 antes del lanzamiento
RAM: 4GB Ram
STORAGE: 64GB
OS: Windows 10 Home *
DISPLAY: 5,5″ IPS, Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
RESOLUTION: 1280×720 (720p)
BATTERY: 6000mAh
TV Out: MicroHDMI
1 x USB 3.0 (Full Size Port)
1 x MicroUSB
1 x USB Type-C 3.1
MicroSD Slot (128GB Support)
Tentative release price: $300/275€
This is the base model. there will most probably be released another version “lite” with 4GBRAM/32GB.
GPD commented that most probably will release a DualOS firmware, after releasing this device (about October), then most probably will get a dualOS (Android/Windows) before end of this year.
in another hand, I did some concept designs for this device, but i know that GPD for now is not considering another factor form, but hope they consider this for future references:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmcntTBrm5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hfiPz-adKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QKU93rUK0
Greetings!
Would like to make several points. First, This is a wonderful idea for a device! Well done GPD! Next, loose Windows, It’s not needed and because of the security problems, not wanted. Android is great. Next, the power button needs to be moved out of the way[based on the pictures above] to avoid accidental button presses and unintentional power-downs. Next, make the battery user replaceable. Last, increase the screen size to 6″.
well, the main focuss of this device is opening a new market with windows, then is sense to think on including windows on it. XD
more than this, GPD commented that most probably will release a DualOS firmware to flash the device for people that want DualOS (Android and Windows) or, if you prefer, can remove directly Windows and keep Android.
My preferences (and from many other people) is dualOS, because i want to use both of them, but is ok if GPD can release a firmware to provide to us this function.
About removable battery, well, GPD answer that is a cost problem, because adding a removable battery mean high cost of the device, then is ok for now (but i want a removable battery too, for extending usage of the device with aux batteries)
in another hand, i uploaded few videos of my designs for let chinese people to watch tehm on youku. Hope this can reach some forums that i cannot post (Baidu as example)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NTcxMDkwMA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NTcwOTAyMA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NTcxMTE1Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
there are lot of people that wants something with PSVita form factor, but updating the current G58 mold, adding some features such L2, R2, L3, R3, and other that i show on videos (all of this running DualOS system, of course)
I know that GPD is considering on releasing their GPD-XD MAX, GPD-XD2 (and most probably GPD-XD2 MAX too) and GPD-Win MAX, but there is a lot of time before their release, but all of these devices are GPD-XD clamshell form factor (3DSXL), then hope GPD in some moment can consider on other form factor for releasing new devices too.
@Deen0X
Those are some good points. And I agree that the ultimate choice needs to be with the user, whether they want Android, Windows or both. Hopefully, GPD will be wise enough to make both Android 4.4.4[many still prefer it for customization reasons] and 6.0.1 available and skip 5.x as it has to many issues. The removable battery issue is an important one for the reasons you mentioned, using extended batteries and replacing worn out batteries more easily. I’ve already had to search for and replace batteries for my Archos Gamepad, JXD S7300B, GPD Q88 and GPD G7. I have the technical know-how to do it, but it is a serious pain in the neck. But way of comparison, I do not buy phones at all unless they have replaceable batteries, no matter how nice they are. This includes the Galaxy S6 and a few others.
Gpd should really do a 7 inch version‚ because windows 10 desktop is really hard to manage on a small screen. And i hope they’ll let the BIOS open with possibility to install other OS like kali linux or ubuntu.
@dawning, Windows 10 come with metro interface that is focussed for small displays.
standard desktop is another thing. even in 8 inches is hard to manage (i know because i use a 8″ windows tablet every day)
traditional desktop was developed for mouse and keyboard usage (and last time, most focussed on mouse)
maybe GPD can consider on adding some sort of optical mouse similar to what implements Viliv N5 device
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wPfcJ3qb3yw/Vq9cPIARddI/AAAAAAAAXls/r8R2tJ8bFNA/s800-Ic42/Viliv%252520N5%252520Optical%252520Mouse.jpg
Adding this small piece of hardware you can get a very functional mouse implementation on the device, and make it so easiest to use windows with this (better than mousestick emulated with gamepad’s analog stick)
But in any case, mosuestick is a solution too, and most probably will be implemented on the device.
We have news.
indiegogo campaign:
http://igg.me/at/gpdwin/x/13166053
indiegogo price: $299
Final release price: $499
GPD-XD2 Announced and first renders
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Is making a tablet mode possible in the future? Where the screen pivots and folds back over the keyboard for touch centric applications or to use as a reader or touch only browser? The concept is nice, I owned a Fujitsu U810 and loved the fact that I could use just the touch screen while holding it like a tablet. It had a 5.6″ screen and it worked quite well for most applications using Vista, I can only imagine Win10 would be that much better, especially with the additional power to back it up.
there is another device, the GPD-XD2 that will be yoga style (check my previous post), but there is no news about this running windows.
about GPD-Win, they announced today that the device wifi was upgraded to 5GHz!
@Deen0X
I’ve always thought the yoga style was a horrible idea, it exposes the keyboard to input and abuse while removing it’s functionality. The pivot and fold style protects the keyboard and has a better look/feel because you can use the solid back of the tablet to hold it rather than griping the keyboard. While I’ve considered getting the GPD-XD, I wouldn’t get the XD2 unless it had significantly better specs, and likely would never use the yoga position for anything, except maybe to stand it on edge to watch video, but I’ve got a $3 stand already that I use for that with my tablet.
Of course the pivot and fold is more difficult to implement from an engineering standpoint, and requires higher grade, higher cost materials for the pass-through wiring to prevent breaking and shorting over time with use.
The WiFi upgrade, it that to 2.4GHz AND 5GHz, or 5GHz alone?
i understand your point. time ago i own an Asus T91MT (http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/SN13293A_specs6.jpg) and yes, is comfortable for usage, but have a big problem, if consider on a device like a gaming console: because their focus include childs (and people that are not so cautions that people usual to UMPCs devices) a pivot piece may be so fragile.
thinking on this, most breaks of the device will be asked to manufacturer or reseller for returning money or replace the device.
GPD will prefer to use a strong solution. In fact, current XD hinges are even better than original Nintendo 3DS.
I like the yoga style, but i understand your point. I will not use this for more than few times… unless the screen grow to 6 or7 inches, then will be a comfortable tablet (or phablet size).
In any case, for gaming device i really prefer a PSVita style, becasuse is more comfortable. this Yoga style will be ok, but if the hardware included don´t bring more than current GPD-XD, then i don´t see so much people buying this new device.
Really i think is better if this new device hardware is similar to GPD-Win, for interchangeable firmwares/OS, and with this, possibility to run Windows, Android or both on the same device. RK3399 maybe so powerful, but RK3288 is enough powerful for running current android titles without problems too. I don´t see what you gain with new SoC, if you will simply run android on it. (yes, maybe some emulators go a little bit better, but i think is not enough for expend money on new device, really)
@lexluthermiester
Windows is great, android is crap (total), your view on this topic is stupid and brainwashed, loose your stupid comments like you did by yourself and don’t pretend your opinion is the all people opinion or has any value. it doesn’t.
@cortex-a72
Quote; ” Windows is great, android is crap (total) ”
Your opinion is not shared by everyone, or even the majority for that matter. Each has it’s merits and problems. For THIS kind of device, Android makes more sense on many levels.
Quote; ” your view on this topic is stupid and brainwashed ”
Is there a reason why you are being so aggressive? It just makes you look like you have the maturity of a child.
Quote; ” don’t pretend your opinion is the all people opinion ”
I didn’t and don’t. In my circle of friends and associates, we’re divided about half and half Android Vs Windows, but EVERYONE agrees that making both available and letting the end user decide which one they want is the best course of action. This has been communicated to GPD directly. We’ll see what happens.
Quote; ” or has any value. it doesn’t. ”
To YOU maybe. Do grow someday soon, hmm?
@lexluthermiester
you re right, Android is very good 4 gaming, media player n more… each day better apps n ecosystem improvements like manual camera, wired n wireless display… so i really enjoy android…
I dont use win several years, neither home, work, mobile n server, but in dept.stores i try a few win tablet n the ui is not prime time, feel unconfortable n hang w/bsod in camera.
the only good of dual boot is the support of uefi, so i can format win n install Linux…
i m waiting a gpd/jxd 7/8 inch, but hd. i like q9 but 1024×600 is not enough, i guess. i need replace 4 my s7800, which accidentally fell to the floor.