I’ve recently tested two Android TV boxes with an HDMI input, namely HPH NT-V6 and M-195, and with the firmware they had at the time of review, the HDMI input just acts as a dumb HDMI input port, and there was nothing much I could do with it. Now comes Zidoo X9, another Android TV box powered nby Mstar MSO9810 that also comes with an HDMI input port, but this time, they’ve implemented a PVR function, so if you have a low end satellite, cable, or terrestrial receiver, you can connect it to Zidoo X9 and record programs, which makes it much more useful.
- SoC – Mstar MSO9180D1R quad core Cortex A9 processor up to 1.5GHz with
octa-core ARM Mali-450MP6 GPUMali-450MP (2 or 4) GPU
- System Memory – 2GB DDR3
- Storage – 8GB eMMC flash + micro SD slot
- Video Output / Input – HDMI output up to 4K, HDMI input with PVR and Time Shifting support, and AV port (Composite + stereo audio)
- Audio I/O – HDMI Out and In, AV, and optical S/PDIF
- (Main) Video Codecs – H265, VC-1, WMV-HD, MPEG1/2/4 up to 4Kx2K, etc..
- Audio Codec – MP3, AAC, AC3, DTS-HD Master, TrueHD 7.1 pass-through, etc…
- Connectivity – 10/100M Ethernet, Dual band 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi (MT7632 module), Bluetooth 4.0. Dual external antennas.
- USB – 1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0 host ports.
- Misc – ON/OFF switch, reset pinhole, LCD display on front panel
- Power Supply – N/A
- Dimensions – 187 x 127 x 27 mm (aluminum enclosure)
It looks very similar to Kaiboer F5, but they’ve added dual bad Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0, and I understand the firmware is completely different.
The device runs Android 4.4.2 with Google Play Store, a custom version of XBMC optimized for Mstar MSO9810, and an interesting user interface called ZIUI. If you are mainly interested in HDMI in function, jump to 5:49, where you’ll see the configuration menu for PVR function that allows to record in HD, VGA, FHD resolution and MP4 or TS container, and specific the starting date/time. H.264 is used to encode the video, and you can choose the recording path, for example on SD card or USB hard drive. Warning: If you are a member of the grammar/vocabulary police, this video may make you faint / feel unwell.
Zidoo X9 can be purchased for $169 on Amazon US, but I can’t find it anywhere else. You may be able to find more information on ZidooX9 product page, and ask questions on the Forums. [Update: GearBest sells the device for $119.99 including shipping with coupon ZDX9CN]
Thanks to Harley for the tip.
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Not everyone out there is looking to completely cut the cord of pay TV. For those who maintain a “basic cable” feed, the ability to record is a major selling point.
Are there any other media players out there with HDMI *input* and record capabilities?
Yep – cable cos charge big money for PVR in their boxes. Hope this is first of many 🙂
@Jon Publix
I think it’s the first product I see with HDMI in + PVR capabilities.
Otherwise, I’ve tested a DVB-S2 media player with PVR, but DVB-C / DVB-T2 / ATSC versions also exists.
Hi, thanks for posting the review. I’ve tried a few of these HDMI-IN devices (amlogic, rokchip, realtech) and they all suffer from “judder” or sync issues with a set top box (comcast) as source. This is especially obvious on an HD news ticker (such as Fox news / ESPN) where it’s not smooth.
If it’s not too much trouble could u confirm if these models are smooth? Also I was looking for picture in picture function…do they do that? I don’t need recording function.
Tks again for post and informing me of these new models! 🙂
@John
I haven’t really checked the smoothness. But as you can see with M-195 I had a color issue. HPH NT-V6 was OK in that regard.
All I can do (with the firmware I tested) was to start the app and see the HDMI input. No PiP, no PVR, no other useful features. So they acted about the same way as an HDMI switcher. I’ve seen a video (Chrbax on Youtube) with a Geniatech box (Amlogic processor) that could do PiP.
hi all,
We will be upgrade X9 firmware this week, it may include below features:
Fixed the PVR “judder” 🙂
A redesigned file manager, which utilizing more screen space.
A redesigned album app, reduce OOM occurence.
A redesigned MediaPlayer, making the operation easier.
Redesigned PVR function, easier and stable UI experience
A new version of KODI for Zidoo, based on new Kodi version.
A more powerful memory management system, increasing system efficiency
The upgrade will be carried out through OTA online, X9 will be notified for upgrade automatically.
@mirror
Thanks for the update!
Can you confirm if there will be a Picture in Picture feature with this new firmware?
Many thanks (and to you cnxsoft)
It has just been listed on GeekBuying for $149.99 (Presale only) – http://www.geekbuying.com/item/ZIDOO-X9-Quad-Core-Smart-XBMC-TV-BOX-MSTAR-Android-2G-8G-4K-H-265-Player-7-1-Pass-Through-Dolby-w–HDMI-in-USB3-0-2G-5G-WiFi-BT-339305.html
@John
Hi,PIP function is in the making,maybe the next firmware version will be support
It’s also on GearBest now, same price ($149.99) – http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box/pp_130785.html
Hi all
We had a new firmware,You can get the download URL tomorrow
A list of updating softwares
System:
1, FIX removing the system promptS which hold resources.
2,FIX solving recording jitter
3, some unsupported ISOs lead localMM to be corrupted.
4,FIX advancing decoding,solving some problems that m2ts can not do
5, upgrading KODI(XBMC) from alpha to RC3
6, Upgrading teleswitches which can only cut definition of 4k30,4k25,1080P,720P .
7, upgrade: different kinds of repairs, upgrades, and revisions of native players.
8, Upgrading audio player supporting the file of CUE.
9, Upgrade system settings: setting languages without focuses, removing the unnecessary settings.
10, upgrading the compability of googleplay
11, Upgrading some play lag phases of 4K files
12, Upgrading the hardware that supports the format of GPT.
UI:
1、Adding tips that show the Bluetooth has been connected on the chief interface.
2、Searching on the chief interface more than 4 hours, BUG will make the interface be in a mess.
3、Changing setting- BUG of common settings can not use mouse.
4、Upgrading BUG which can make the applications update autonomously.
5、The problems of input method errors when searching on the chief interface.
6、The problems of search box that can not run its cursors when searching on the chief interface.
7、Upgrading the speed of interface.
8、Adding dynamic pushes of the major ICON on the chief interface.
Recorder:
1.The HDMI IN automatic poop-up screen window when it is applied into
2.Modified statu Chinese error under the status bar
3.Modified recorded input for real resolution
4.Add selections of the sampling rate:VAG1024000/ hd1024000*3/ Fhd1024000*5
5.When recording, the upper right corner of the recording will mark dynamic display
6.Modified the month-end selection time of BUG
7.The interface will be hidden after inoperating about 10s
8.Solve the problem of the screen shake when recording
9.Modified the BUG when the upgrade box is hidden by screen-recorder frame window
10.Modified the BUG when it came into the application error repeatedly
Files manager
1.Modified ways of the mouse sliding list so as to match the sliding speed and wheel slip
2.Solve problem of becoming white when file list pictures
3.Add entrances of direct files classification
4.Add video classifications of -ts suffix
5.It will play the BUG if you pull out/insert USB on the file interface
6.Add the cue playing songs entrance of flac wav file
Music player
1.Support the CUE + WAV, CUE + FLAC, CUE + APE and selecting play.
2.Correct no response from flying squirrel return key bug.
3.Increase the function of that it will access to media files automatically when you
enter the applications directly.
Image manager:
1. Comprehensive revision of application present a new face.
2. Solve not load due to entering and exit the folder frequently bug.
3. Add the random switching, vigor effect and many flash effect.
4. Not closed LWP after exiting the interface bug.
5. Out of memory bug.
6. Improve pictures’ clarity in the animation.7. Optimize the speed of loading pictures.
Video player
1. Comprehensive revision of UI present a new face.
2. Solve no response from multiple plugins subtitles selection bug.
3. Switch tracks no response bug.
4. Solve the part of MP4 files can’t to get the total time bug.
5. Solve a part of the ISO file can’t play lead to the player can’t play bug.
@mirror
Hi,
I hope you had a good holiday over the festive period.
I have the zidoo X9 with me now and have done the OTA upgrade.
You have done a good job with the device. Hardware feels solid and the UI is nice and the OTA update worked perfectly, well done!
Some feedback on the HDMI-IN:
1) Your latest firmware breaks ‘pass through audio’. I only hear audio if I select “L-PCM’ instead of pass-through (previous f/w worked with pass-through audio).
2) When there is a lot of movement on the screen (ie. sports and a news ticker such as “ESPN”) the video struggles to keep up and we see some jitter / frame skip / non smooth video.
3) During system boot if there is HDMI-Input attached you can hear and see the source for a few seconds even before you choose the “HDMI Input” app.
4) When using 1080i (interlaced) source I guess you are doing deinterlacing. This needs some improvement as it suffering from some ghosting. Perhaps you can have some options of different deinterlace methods to choose from?
5) When starting HDMI-Input sometimes don’t want to record… so only show the recording UI if the ‘menu’ button is pushed perhaps?
6) Really would like the Picture in Picture function to be next.
Saying all that (which I hope you take as constructive feedback), I must say that you have the smoothest and best HDMI-Input I’ve seen on an Android device, so very well done to you! 🙂
I look forward to the next firmware update – please contact me if you would like me to test interactively with you (I have remote ADB and USB console tools if it is helpful).
Cheers
@John
Thanks for feedback,We will strive to do the best.About test,Please give me ur email,my EMAIL myq@zidoo.tv
@mirror
Hi there,
I sent you an email on 02-Jan 10:51am. Did you get it? Maybe in your junk mail?
Cheers
@John
Can you post a sample recording on a file sharing site from a channel with a news ticker? I would like to compare the quality to other HDMI recording solutions like hauppauge hd pvr, etc. What format (H264, HEVC, etc) and bitrate does it use to record 1080i channels? Are they recorded in original 1080i format? Does it record AC3 dolby digital audio? Thanks.
@标
zidoo x9 support hdmi in 1080p record by H.264 format
@John
v1.0.2.5 coming soon
System Update List:
1. Add the function of Bluetooth connects automatically after power on.
2. Smooth the dtshdma audio of Blu-ray 3d movie
3. Smooth truehd track occasionally
4. Modify the error problem of video interface when 4K output or inserting HDMI OUT line
5. Add the flip function of Remote key
Software update list :
1.The APK still shows recommended data even doesn’t get into the network.
2. Data keeps updated after the recommended data changed.
3. Add the dragging function of UI mouse
4. Optimize the font styles
5. Modify the error indicator problem when inserted USB devices.
Record screen:
1. Modify display styles of setting appointment time, change into specific time
2. Optimize UI disappears automatically when deleting appointment or recorded files
3. Optimize setting the accuracy of video length
File Manager:
1. Optimize SD also can display by press Up to unload
2. Add the function of circulation list
3. Add a key to flip
Music Player:
1. Optimize the accuracy of translation from the “Unknown” language
Picture Manager:
1. Optimize swithcing pirtures around when view pictures from file manager
2. Optimize the clarity when flashing
3. Modify the display position of UI
4. Optimize recycling of picture memory
5. Modify the memory overflows for some larger pictures
OTA Update:
1. Revise the APK
2. speeds download
3. more reasonable designature for UI
4. Support background download
5. Download from breakpoint automatically
6. Support local upgrade and background replication
7. View update blogs of 6 nearest versions
Video Player:
1. Optimize the continued saved function of ISO/BDMV
2. Localmm keeps on running when the system language switchs to others,like Russian
3. Delete the repeat function of the loop mode playlist options
4. Modify track after swithing track or video fast- forward.
5. Modify the problem of forward/back, when play/pause pressing around the key.
6. Optimize the display dimension when playing 3D
7. Optimize the unfull dimension when playing 3D-2D video
8. LocalMM keeps running when switching into cycle mode
9. After selecting track, maintain the selected track when re- enter the menu
10. Modify default display when inscribed caption
setting — about — update– local update then select the file,Done!
OTA does not seem to work right now. Any reason for that?
There is no online push now,You can download this file,then select local update.
@mirror
Thanks. I want to check OTA update too, so I’ll just wait for it.
@cnxsoft
online OTA is ready,Please try it again.
@mirror
OK, the OTA update is working. At least it’s downloading now.
Very nice to include a detailed changelog to your firmware updates, many companies often provide updates without saying what they’ve changed.
@mirror
I can’t use Google Play Store (with this firmware and the previous one).
Network is working, and I could login into my Google Account, but when I start the Play Store, it just shows “Check your connection and try again”. I have no problem using the web browser either.
@cnxsoft
Thanks for feedback,I has added this bug in our mantis,
@标
zidoo x9 pvr and xbmc record demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUK2rtPYnVI&list=UU4yn2j_bkBUJZZJCGySmIPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS_PJaBo4nA
Zidoo X9 is now available on DealExtreme too ($144) -> http://www.dx.com/p/zidoo-x9-quad-core-android-4-4-2-smart-google-tv-player-w-2gb-ram-8gb-rom-silver-us-plug-375473?Utm_rid=93072394&Utm_source=affiliate
@cnxsoft
You can insert a keybord then press “Print Screen” to take screenshots
@mirror
That’s what I get: http://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/zidoo_x9_google_play.png
@cnxsoft
hi,Please download PlayStore(version 5.1.11) or wait us update the fireware version:v1.0.26 ,sorry
It’s my great honor to share with everyone here: In the next two months,we will launch two competitive and fabulous products. One is Android Box with DVB T2 which will completely redefine the android box+T2 conception ,like AMLOGIC MX,it is compatible with DVB parts very well and designed with wonderful experience UI,its price will be also very good for marketing, Zidoo will be the only one supplier of Turn key! The other is ANDROID BOX, which is the first one of Framework with 64Bit A53 quad-core ARM. It might be dobule systems both UBUNTU and ANDROID L
ZIDOO D1 Android box + DVB T2 user interface:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHxG_5q6OU
@mirror
I’ve also seen your blog post. Nice pictures 🙂 Would you also have detailed specifications?
@cnxsoft
Hi,Around by the end of this month, we will update the specifications of D1 and model of 64Bit on our BLOG.
@mirror
Hi Mirror, I find this product interesting and really want to buy one for some testing and if they reach our requirements maybe we could want to buy more.
If the machine works as we want, can we send you especifications to build a new product similar to this especifications, but with some more?
Also I need to know if we want to use the hdmi input to some more functions can we develop an android app that can use this hdmi input?
Is there some contact to interchange emails and ask you more detailed information
@Manuel
Hi Manuel.my email:myq@zidoo.tv
We can open HDMI IN API, however, maybe you need to tell us more details about your requirements .
@mirror
Hi Mirror,
Do you have plan to have a isdb-t android box. Here in the Philippines is ongoing testing in digital tv broadcasting adopting isdb-t Japan. Please enlighten me if you have that box. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Boyet
@Mirror
Will it record game play from PS3 ?
Regards,
Tomb
@Tomb
As we know, I can’t talk more about the topic of HDCP. However, you can have a try, maybe you might enter the game first, then put HDMI to HDMI IN of X9 with the cable.
@ HI Mirror
I got the point. Thanks for the answer. I have just ordered my ZIDOO at geekplaying.
Tomb
This product looks good, I would probably buy one if you add Giga Ethernet connectivity!
What is the difference with Kaiboer F5?
@TrunCkZ
Android 4.4, HDMI IN record, 5 g WIFI, BT 4.0, Better compatibility of media,a nearer western OPENGL UI, all of these are unique characteristics of X9
Will it play 23,976 @ 24 hz or output true 23,976fps in Kodi ?
@Jimmy
There’s not even an option for 24 Hz. I forgot to test automatic frame rate switching.
Recording from HDMI it’s a joke. Worked in first firmware, and doesn’t work in next firmware.
Seems this device is also a joke. Blu ray 3d without 1080p24 support ?? it’a fake device.
Sorry to say that but this is reality.
I buyed open chameleon device and i have both in parallel and i see improvement from openhour chameleon, but zidoo should take advice from consumer about features request.
why zidoo admin banned my ip? because i ask about defects? i can’t access forum from my network
@adl
I’m the admin of zidoo forum,We never BAN your IP. Why do you say that?
We open Forum, in order to listen to the views from users, and to improve our firmware.Therefore, why we do such you said that?
It is a a fake device without 1080p24hz? What’s more, we are developing this feature now.
HDMI IN Record, we had said that it only supports the PCM audio, if you failed, please check your own environment, we have hundreds of thousands of users to confirm its availability.
@adl
ZIDOO X9 can automatic switch to 24hz when play blueray 3D movie,
but can’t auto switch to 24hz when play bluray2D movie with 24hz. there are few this kind of movie.
we’ll add a option to settings , so that user can’t switch to 24hz manual before play 24hz movie.
The new firmware v1.0.2.7 for x9 coming soon
Including several new functions:
Open Recovery menu,
A brand-new File manager,
Add new remote control with powerful function for mobile (access Android phones),
Optimize the Samba,
It can call Video player from third party file manager.
Fix the problem of some coding the subtitles garbled, such as Korean SMI.
v1.0.2.7
System Update:
Add the recovery function, press the recovery key to boot.
If can’t find MstarUpgrade.bin in USB DISK, enter into the interface of recovery.
Change the color of the recovery interface.
The backup menu on the interface of recovery, only backup user data and tv data.
Zidoo RC
>> Add the remote control of Android mobile phone, easier operation, support a variety of operation ways.
The choices of operation: button code/ handle code/ mouse code/ gestures code.
Add the management APP of cell phone.
Add the function of screenshots.
Zidoo UI
Add the icon of redraw.
Modify the problem of returning to setting interface according to the menu.
Optimize the flash move.
Video Player
Solve the problem of subtitle gibberish, adding the switch function of subtitle encoding.
Add the codes of identification subtitles automatically.
Add the movement function on the basis of units on the location of subtitle.
There won’t be any mistake while the screen scaling and choosing the Default.
File
>> The new UI, more intuitive experience, more easier and quicker operation ways, smoother running.
New functions:
Add the create file/folder function.
Add the multiple choices function, operating multiple files simultaneously.
Add the function of view to switch: let list/ network work by yourself.
Add the function of page turning, for finding files faster.
Add the function of show ways while screening, change the screen way whenever you want, operating by yourself.
Add the route function, and you can operate with mouse, keeping the current location at anytime.
Add the function of file details shown, making the information (modified time/ type/size,etc.)clearer.
Add the manual search function of SAMBA and NFS.
Add the adding function for SAMBA, don’t worry to search no device.
Add the logout/ delete function for SAMBA, removing traces more convenient.
Add the pop-up function while inserting an external storage device.
Add the anonymous logon function for users.
Add pop-up function for repeat file name/out of free space,when paste file.
Speed up start-up, for entering apps faster.
Improve the main UI, for all the operation clear, no more red tapes to switch interface.
Improve the searching way of SMB, for searching more precise.
Optimize entirely the support of mouse operating, for operating more simple.
@Tomb
hi,look this,ZIDOO X9 HDMI IN record Play Station 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Dpimibqys
Hi, what maximum bitrates during the record HDMI IN?
The new firmware v1.0.2.8 for ZIDOO X9
update list:
1,Optimization record, when recording for the TS format , VLC can not play, video and audio out of sync issues
2,Repair open WiFi set probability lead to system settings without response issues
3,Remote control shortcut keys [16:9] remove the ZOOM1 and ZOOM2 options
4,Default set to open the WiFi
5,When installing apk google play verify that the default is off
6,Remove the built-in GoogleMap application
7, For reservation recording time changed to 12/24 hours
8,Repair a plurality of recording path does not display issues
9,Increase recording to a samba device(ensure shared SMB account has permissions to write, in the Explorer have login access)
10,Optimization of SMB access, give priority to display the user name
11, Increase in external storage device unmount function
12,Repair the probability of no response to access the hard disk
13,Increased by host name to add Samba device function
14, Repair mouse clicks NFS didn’t respond issues
15,Clean up tip “has been very smooth” change to “Task Completed”.
16, Repair when zidoo remote control lose network to stop running issues
17,Repair the audio code info error of video player
18,Repair select subtitles (idx+sub) stop running issues
19,Repair probability does not focus on external subtitles, need to manually add issues
20,Repair after play BDMV/ISO, playing another video have not seek function issues
21,Repair individual subtitles selection encode stop running issues
22,Long press on the remote control home keys to open multi task management interface, up or down key to kill the current process
1) How does the MSTAR MSO9180D1R 1.5GHZ compare with other popular android box SOCs (ex. RK3288 , AllWinner A80, Tegra K1, Samsung Exynos 5422,AMLogic AML8726-MX, etc)?
2) Is there WiFi Display or Miracast that works reliably?
3) It’d be great if it had a built-in ota hd tuner (atsc, etc).. but can it work with an external usb3 hd tuner (something like the PT-681)?
4) Are there instructions on how to update to firmware version v1.0.2.8?
Hi friends,
During recording from HDMI in:
1) Is it possible to watch the recorded part of the video at the same moment?
2) Is it possible to access other functions, like music, video or game?
Thanks in advance!
@Fábio
If I remember correctly recording happens in the foreground, so you can do any of these.
TimeShifting is the closest you can do for achieving 1).
@cnxsoft
Thank you for the reply!
Did you mean “can do” or “can’t do” since the recording happens in the foreground?
About TimeShifting, according what I read, this device does not have this function, right?
Regards,
Fábio
@Fábio
Sorry, I mean “can’t”.
I think I used TimeShitfing… Maybe I forgot. The review is @ http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/02/11/review-of-zidoo-x9-android-media-player-and-video-recorder/