Raspberry Pi 3 and hardkernel ODROID-C2 launched the same day, and together with Pine A64/A64+, are the only ultra low cost (<$40) 64-bit ARM development boards available or soon-to-be available, so I’ve decided to make a comparison of the three boards the same way I did with ~$10 boards with a Raspberry Pi Zero, C.H.I.P, and Orange Pi One comparison.
I’ve used features of Pine A64+ instead of Pine A64 since features and price are closer to the other two boards. Text highlighted in green means a board is clearly better than the other two for a given features, while a red highlight means it’s the weakest of the three.
| Raspberry Pi 3 | ODROID-C2 | Pine A64 Plus | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Processor | Broadcom BCM2837 quad core Cortex A53 processor @ 1.2 GHz(4x ~2760 DMIPS) | Amlogic S905 quad core Cortex A53 processor @ 2.0 GHz(4x ~4600 DMIPS) | Allwinner A64 quad core Cortex A53 processor @ 1.2 GHz (4x ~2760 DMIPS) |
| GPU | VideoCore IV @ 300/400 MHz | Penta core (3+2) ARM Mali-450 | ARM Mali-400MP2 |
| Video Decoding |
1080p30 for H.264, MPEG2* and VC1* * Extra licenses required |
8-/10-bit H.265 up to 4K @ 60fps, H.264 up to 4K @ 30 fps, H.263, VC1, Mpeg1/2, AVS, Realvideo up to 1080p60 |
H.265/HEVC @ up to 4K @ 30 fps, H.264, VP8, AVS/AVS+ & MPEG1/2/2 @ 1080p60 , VC1 and MJPEG up to 1080p @ 30 fps |
| Video Encoding | Full HD H.264 video encoding |
H.264 up to 1080p @ 60fps |
H.264 up to 1080p @ 60fps |
| RAM | 1GB LPDDR2 | 2GB DDR3 |
1 or 2GB DDR3 |
| Storage | micro SD card slot | micro SD card slot + eMMC socket | micro SD card slot |
| Boot media | micro SD card slot, USB or PXE (network boot) | micro SD card slot or eMMC socket | micro SD card slot |
| Ethernet |
10/100M Ethernet via USB bridge |
Gigabit Ethernet | Gigabit Ethernet |
| Wireless Connectivity |
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n (2.4GHz) and Bluetooth 4.1 LE |
No, requires USB dongle | Not included by default, but an optional WiFi 802.11 b/g/n & Bluetooth module can be added |
| USB | 4x USB 2.0 host ports + 1x micro USB port for power only | 4x USB 2.0 host ports + micro USB OTG port | 2x USB 2.0 host ports |
| Video | HDMI 1.4 with CEC and 3.5mm composite video jack |
HDMI 2.0 with CEC Composite video can be added via unpopulated 2-pin header |
HDMI 1.4 |
| Audio | HDMI and 3.5 mm audio jack (Shared with composite video) | HDMI |
HDMI, 3.5mm audio jack |
| I/Os and other peripherals |
40-pin header with 26 –GPIOs, 1x UART (debugging), 1x SPI, 2x I2C, PCM/I2S, 2x PWM CSI (camera serial interface) DSI (display serial interface). |
40-pin header with GPIO, I2C, UART, PWM, 1-wire, and ADC 7-pin I2S for audio Built-in IR receiver |
40-pin Raspberry Pi 2 compatible header with up to 27x GPIOs, 1x I2C, 1x SPI, 1x UART. 34-pin “Euler” header with IR, I2S, 1x SPI, 2x UART, S/PDIF 4-lane MIPI DSI connector and touch panel connector MIPI CSI camera interface
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| Power | 5V via micro USB Idle power consumption: With UI (Raspbian?): 0.31A @ ~5V Terminal only: 0.22A @ 5.19 V |
5V via micro USB OTG port or power barrel Idle power consumption: TBD |
5V via power barrel or 3.7V LiPo battery Idle power consumption: TBD |
| Dimensions | 85 x 56 mm | 85 x 56mm | 127mm x 79mm |
| Linux Support |
Official: Raspbian with recent Linux 4.x kernel. Many other community supported distros including OpenELEC, OSMC, Ubuntu Matte, Ubuntu Snappy Core, etc… 32-bit user space only (currently) Mainline Linux support in progress. |
Official: Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit images with Linux 3.14 kernel
Amlogic S905 Mainline Linux support in progress (but likely preliminary) |
Community: Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit with Kernel 3.10 (No GPU and VPU support)
Mainline support in progress. |
| Android Support |
No (at least not a usable version) |
Android 5.1 | Android 5.1 |
| Windows 10 IoT Support | Yes | No | Not yet, but maybe later |
| Community | Largest community so far for a development board on Raspberry Pi Forums.
Monthly MagPi magazine |
Active community on ODROID forums
Monthly ODROID magazine |
Somewhat active Pine64 Forum, but frequency of post should increase once many of the 36,781 Kickstarter backers receive their board |
| Documentation, and hardware files. | Documentation is available via eLinux RPI Wiki, with little info about Raspberru Pi 3 specifically, but it’s not really an issue, as it’s software compatible with Raspberry Pi 2
Schematics are not available, even in PDF format, and the board hardware is closed source. Broadcom BCM2837 datasheet is not available, however many of the peripherals will be similar to BCM2835 where the datasheet has been released. |
Documentation can be found on ODROID-C2 Wiki.
Schematics (PDF), autocad files, and Amlogic S905 datasheet are not available (yet), but those files were provided for ODROID-C1. No PCB layout or Gerber files are provided for ODROID boards, so the board is also closed source.
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Documentation is available on Pine64 Wiki.
Schematics (PDF), and datasheet for all main chips including Allwinner A64 datasheet have been released. PCB layout and Gerber files are not available, which makes the board closed source.
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| Listed Price | $35 | $40 | $19 (1GB RAM) / $29 (2GB RAM) Kickstarter prices |
| Shipping to US address | $7.99 via MCM Electronics
Total: $42.99 |
$6.75 on Ameridroid.
Total: $48.70 (Board price is $41.95)
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$7 Total: $26 or $36 |
| Distribution network and Availability | Wide sales network, with most online retailers and some brick and mortar shops selling Raspberry Pi boards. Good availability as the foundation produces 300,000 boards before launch | Available via Hardkernel, or distributors in US and Europe. Shipping may be costly to some other countries. | Currently not available, and it’s not clear which distributions channels will be used. Kickstarter backer s are starting to receive their boards. |
Since there’s quite a lot to go through, I may have made some mistakes, or missed some little known features, and corrections are welcome in the comments section. Please note that the prices for Pine A64 is likely to go up a little after the Kickstarter campaign.
Boards are likely to show similar performance in synthetic benchmark, except ODROID-C2 which should show a significant lead. However, I could not find benchmark for Pine A64 right now, and as we’ve seen this morning, Aarch64 improves performance significantly over Aarch32, so current benchmarks are likely to become invalid if/once Raspberry Pi 3 gets a 64-bit port. For example, Pine A64 is currently 15 times faster in sysbench CPU benchmark (prime numner computation) compared to Raspberry Pi 3, and it’s clearly not showing the true performance difference.
As usual there’s no board that is always better than the other two, and depending on your use case, technical ability, and other factors, one board may be better suited to you or your application.
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For pine A64, I2S audio with euler “e” connector.
I read a blog on the Raspberry Pi web site that the VideoCore 4 GPU is limited to accessing 1GB of memory and there are no plans for a Raspberry Pi with more than 1GB of RAM.
@Stephen
Now they play the backward compatibility card (software and hardware), but one day, maybe next year or 2018, they’ll have to drop it, if they plan on upgrading the hardware and keep up with new technologies.
Thank you very much!
Just this morning (waiting for a A64+ and asking myself if I should also get a C2 ) I was wondering which of these three would be the better device (for certain tasks of course). I planned on checking the net later on in the day if by any chance someone had already made a comparison. Having your site on my RSS feed was really a good choice 🙂
Are there any performance comparisons between the GPUs? I ordered a Pine 64 (before the Pi 3 came out) and now I’m wondering if I should have waited for the C2.
@Gabriel Banfalvi
No benchmark results that I’m aware of, but the penta core Mali-450MP GPU will be significantly faster than Mali-400MP2 GPU. I think you can forgot about 3D games on Pine A64, and 2D games may also feel sluggish in Android.
The Pi 3 and the C2 are going to be your preferred choices (And we’re back to the tradeoffs discussion I’ve been having with a lot of people on G+ over these two and a few others… :D) because of the specs. If they keep the price past Kickstarter on the Pine64, it’s going to be all three dependng on what you’re doing. Honestly, 1Gb vs 2Gb isn’t as big a deal as you think it. Unless you’ve got applications that USE more than a Gig or a lot of small apps that do, it’s not as important as you’d… Read more »
It should be noted that counting USB ports doesn’t tell that much about available bandwidth. Both ODROID and RPi 3 use an internal USB hub, even worse the RPi’s Fast Ethernet is also connected to its USB hub and the BCM2837 still only features one USB2.0 connection to the outside. So expect worst I/O and network bandwidth there (especially when used in parallel). GBit Ethernet is using an own bus on C2 and Pine64 and the Pine’s 2 USB ports do not have to share bandwidth. S905 and A64 are throttling candidates and i would suspect the same is true… Read more »
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) Ah that really sucks, are there any smallish boards with a significantly faster GPU?
@Gabriel Banfalvi
I think ODROID-C2’s GPU is fairly OK, based on my tests of other Amlogic S905 devices.
It you want something a bit more powerful (GPU), then Geekbox or RK3288-Firefly are options, but they cost a little over $100. What do you want to do with it?
I’d also take a note of the kernel development. As the table shows the C2 is currently shipping with an old 3.14LTS kernel which is EOL in August this year. Lots of problems with newer hardware (like DVB-T2 sticks, newer WiFi adaptors etc.) because the drivers are only in newer kernels, and the AMLogic Kernel headers aren’t quite right for running Media_Build etc. to compile new driver support. The Pine 64 is even older with Kernel 3.10… ODroid forums are saying that AMLogic and Hardkernel are now agreed to working on 4.4LTS kernel development starting in May – so things… Read more »
Here is more informative sysbench results on C2.
http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=136&t=19158
The C2 seems to be 40% faster than others probably.
Small addendum regarding Pine64’s USB bandwidth: The upper USB port is OTG in reality and can be switched to host mode. At least in the current state of Allwinner’s 3.10.65 Android kernel that doesn’t work that good. Tried to measure I/O bandwidth and on the upper (OTG) port this led to a disconnected SSD and ext4 errors almost immediately. So the C2 clearly wins (OTG + 1 host and 4 receptacles through USB hub) BTW: Just testing an USB connected SSD on Pine64+ with a well known crappy USB cable to power the Pine led already to a deadlock 🙂… Read more »
@tkaiser
I forgot to mention that in any of my posts, but for some reasons I don’t understand they said the official Raspberry Pi 3 5V/2.5A power supply should not be used with other devices…
@Stephen
Broadcom needs an upgrade to VideoCore V… Rev. IV dates back to 2012! 😐
According to the Pine64 web site, CEC is supported on their HDMI port (haven’t tried it yet). The 16.04 Ubuntu distro isn’t “official”. It’s a community release based on the Android linux BSP released by Allwinner, mostly thanks to this guy’s amazing effort: https://github.com/longsleep
@Steve
There’s a very raw 4.4 kernel for the Pine 64 based off mainline. It’s mostly the work of an Arm engineer who’s got a beta board.
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft)
Good point. Maybe they use the 2 data lines also for power to overcome the ‘max 1.8A/5V’ Micro USB limitation (according to specs — most of the times undervoltage is the real problem with this crappy DC-IN connector due to USB cables having way too high resistance)
pine’s a64 and odroid s905 are 28nm process. I fear bcm2837 of pi3 is still 40nm but it could be 28nm process info should probably be cleared by facts in the coming days .
@data
In a personal conversation the Pine64 founder cited Allwinner’s A64 PM writing A64 is still 40nm. This would also explain a bit the low clockspeeds (1152 max by default). Allwinner’s A83T (now also called H8/R58) is made in an 28nm process and able to clock up to 2GHz (if the board isn’t already deadlocked due to undercurrent/undervoltage 😉 )
Thanks a lot!
Also Pine64+ backer here. imho the only remaining advantages of the pine64+ are the multiple UART & SPI interfaces, the lipo capability and integrated RTC. or DSI/CSI+GbE combo. plus at $19/29 it’s half the price of the others.
so its still a great allround/tinker or cluster board but for other specific projects i’d get the RPi3, C2+, Pi0, chip or oPi1…
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft)
Thank you for the interesting posting.
Please add the information about HiFi Shield at Audio/ODROID-C2 part.
http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G143729448865
@Armer Regarding ‘informative sysbench results’: It should be obvious since yesterday that sysbench is pretty useless to compare different architectures (be it software or hardware). And regarding allegedly being 40% more performant compared to the others: using the silly sysbench ‘benchmark’ we’re talking now about 2.8 seconds instead of 3.25 seconds as published by me yesterday for the Pine64+. What has been ‘optimised’? The code? Nope, just thermal settings. Details in the thread you already linked to: http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=136&t=19158 BTW: It’s way too early to do any serious benchmarking with A64/Pine64. The sysbench result was just a demonstration that optimised code… Read more »
NOTE: The audio box for C2 should also show I2S for audio.
Does I2S Dac/sound-card fit the latest Pi 3?
@tkaiser
That bit about the 40nm A64 is a bit surprising – I don’t think ARM ever announced A53 on 40nm. From what I recall A9 r4 was already 28nm.
Too bad we only get all this half-baked stuff. The “development boards” completely miss the point by providing wildly mismatching hardware with no solid software basics at all : – Raspi3 goes ARM64 with 32bit software, USB2 hub, SnailLan100 slave and a wonderful community 🙂 – Hardkernel Odroid kicks out another expensive board without any support ( closed source ) for Android fans. – Pine64 does not fit anywhere, but if you need another closed-source Android TV-stick, kickstart back. Mainline Linux support is in progress for all these heaps of assorted ICs and – learning from history – they will… Read more »
@blu
Well, the question was “It’s 28nm isn’t it?” and the answer “40nm”. BTW: I had to discover half an hour ago that history will repeat and A64 will be blamed for heat and stability problems just like H3 before: https://github.com/longsleep/build-pine64-image/issues/4
At least at 1536 MHz A64 will perform ~0.5% better than S905 playing silly sysbench games 😉
true allwinner a64 is probably still 40nm as slow frequency indicates… thanks a lot tkaiser for your info.
@data
Regarding ‘slow frequency’: Just figured out that A64 can be overvolted/overclocked just like H3 back then. In this mode (at 1536MHz) A64 performs identical to S905 as long as we’re talking about irrelevant sysbench results 😉
@Gabriel Banfalvi
no GPU tests it seems, i had a comment on another post (http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/02/29/raspberry-pi-3-board-is-powered-by-broadcom-bcm2827-cortex-a53-processor-sells-for-35/#ixzz41gdJTq4g) with the raw performance numbers quoted for each GPU:
videocore4 @ 250Mhz (p1,pi2): 24GFlops
videocore4 @ 400Mhz (pi3): ??? (~38 GFlops?)
mali450mp2 @ 500Mhz (c1): 30GFlops
mali450mp3 @ 750Mhz (c2): 56GFlops
malit628mp6 @ 533MHz (xu4): 102GFlops
mali400mp2 @600Mhz (pine): 10GFlops
A64 is 28nm according to http://linux-sunxi.org/A64
don’t think it has cec but if you are going to build a media machine the O-Droid is clearly the better choice and AmLogic has several official and unofficial openelec builds.
I2S is now only listed in the expansion headers part, and all three boards support it.
@data
BCM2837 is 40nm, as confirmed on Raspberry Pi forums @ https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=138153&p=917200
@tkaiser
Thanks for the elaboration on A64. BTW, that RPi-monitor looks quite nifty. I might start using it sooner than later, once my (cpu-burning) pet project gains speed.
@blu
I wrote RPi-Monitor templates for A10/A20/A13, H3, A83T/H8, A64 and Actions Semi’s S500 already and a few more will follow soon. The Armbian teams plans to develop an ‘armbianmonitor’ approach providing on every supported SBC the collection of these monitoring sources at the same place so they can be easily monitored with either RPi-Monitor or via SNMP (or any other solution that can adjust source paths). So we’re not only enabling our users to get a clue what’s going on and provide comprehensive error reports in case something gets wrong but also integration in professional environments might improve 🙂
you can easily replicate rpi-monitor … what i did was install collectd – with a lot of plugins for stuff to be monitored and saved in RRD – then exported the RRD in charts using highcharts – i did https://github.com/mihailescu2m/collectionjs – you can have v nice charts like this: http://imgur.com/X4yYXqB
odroid seems very nice
here is the first preview from amiredroid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJucQCbH3-4
Raspi 3 can boot from network and USB. That is great and usefull and should give it green mark for the boot media line.
No other board can boot from network.
@juha
Both are clearly nice features to have, but it did not get a green line because ODROID-C2 has its own advantage: eMMC flash support.
Raspberry Pi 3 benchmarks vs Orange Pi PC, Jetson TK1, ODROID C1 Plus etc…
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=raspberry-pi-3&num=1
@juha “No other board can boot from network” is not entirely true since u-boot supports that since quite some time. You still need a small portion of storage on the board since u-boot isn’t implemented as part of the SoC but then you’re able to do PXE (network boot) or boot from USB, SATA or whatever. We at Armbian just recently added network boot capabilities to our build system. @Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) Weird benchmark results as usual. OPi Plus/PC use the same SoC and should behave absolutely identical so he’s testing obviously NOT hardware but something else. Just downloaded Phoronix… Read more »
well that’s not really fair price wise : c2 + emmc 8G (+reader) = 40+18+5 = $63
whereas rpi pxe or usb boot are included features at no extra cost.
and i’d really like to see a performance “comparison” between c2 emmc and and rpi3 usb ssd boot for example..
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft)
These Phoronix pseudo benchmark numbers without any meaning are really a mess: http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/789-breaking-news-choosing-armbian-speeds-up-your-orange-pi-multiple-times/
@tkaiser
He did check out RPI3 temperature in a new post though: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Raspberry-Pi-3-Warm
Details with benchmarks + temperature http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1603069-GA-RASPBERRY16
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) Checking out internal temperatures is nice (and often wrong/uncalibrated), but you also have to monitor cpufreq today since thermal throttling is part of the game. And at least for recent Allwinner SoCs you have to monitor the count of active CPUs cores also since Allwinner chose to kill CPU cores as throttling strategy (that is something that happened to Michael but he didn’t notice and he still uses benchmarks results that are plain wrong). The first step is to check throttling behaviour (using cpuburn https://github.com/ssvb/cpuburn-arm for example). Then you know whether you can continue without heatsink/fan or… Read more »
And this ‘official’ Phoronix comparison of RPi 3 vs. ODROID C2 is interesting http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1603051-GA-ODROIDPI362 since he’s not testing the difference between two pieces of hardware but his tests show instead a) it’s worth to use ARMv8 optimised code on ARMv8 since performance improves b) using a fast SD card improves the SQLite performance a lot c) wearing a huge heatsink as on the C2 is useful to get better performance If he would’ve compared two ODROID-C2 (the other with slow SD card, without heatsink and using the wrong architecture — he even uses ‘-march=armv6 -marm’ for the FFmpeg test!) the… Read more »
OMG, he’s even using different cpufreq governors when comparing two pieces of hardware (performance vs. ondemand)! That might also be the reason for the huge difference in the SQLite benchmark results.
Testing two different SD cards and two different cpufreq governors (maybe keeping the RPi 3 all the time at its lowest clockspeed when doing disk intensive tasks?) and drawing conclusions about ‘boards’ afterwards. The typical misuse of the Phoronix test suite 🙁
@tkaiser Since in theory ODROID-C2 is about 66% faster than Raspberry Pi 3, many of his results are actually quite close to what you would expect. The SQLite is a quite ridiculous though and I can see he used different SD cards for both systems. What people actually test are hardware + software combinations, and it’s somewhat valid at a given time since for example 64-bit OS is not available for RPi3. In the case of crypto tests, you also have to taken into account whether the software makes use of the crypto engine found in some SoCs. Even with… Read more »
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) All true and that’s why these general purpose benchmarks are pretty worthless to compare different boards. If my use case is watching video I should better look whether HW accelerated video encoding is available or not. And then an RPi Zero that looks pretty weak in all benchmarks might outperform a high performing (according to benchmarks) board easily. Something you would never expect if you look at the wrong ‘overall performance’ benchmark scores. If my use case is encryption I should take a look whether I can use the encryption engine or not or in case of… Read more »
That happens when you try to benchmark hardware correctly: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1603083-GA-1603082GA36
The last three results are Orange Pi PC and Pine64+ with sane settings and not weird ‘factory defaults’ Michael prefers/uses all the time.
@tkaiser
Interesting to see that ARMv8 is always faster than 32-bit code for Pine64 in all the benchmarks shown in this summary.
By the way, “Factory defaults” testing has its use too since it shows what performance / experience you may expect out of the box. It all depends what you intend to test.
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) Yeah, regarding ‘factory defaults’ it’s really interesting to compare the benchmark numbers for Orange Pi Plus/PC (factory defaults vs. Armbian settings) But to be honest: If I really care about performance I will both take care of heat dissipation (mounting a heatsink if it’s not already ‘factory default’ like with ODROIDs) and compiler settings. Please have a look at the Smallpt renderer benchmark. Michael gets a score of ~1500 for Pine64 and mine was 7 times faster: 215. Just by letting the compiler optimise code and use NEON (-O2 vs. -O3) which is the first thing everyone… Read more »
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft)
“I think you can forgot about 3D games on Pine A64, and 2D games may also feel sluggish in Android”
It’s the same GPU used in the MT6582, which is clocked nearly the same as the Pine A64 but only uses A7 cores. If you search for MT6582 on YouTube you’ll see smartphones with that SoC happily running Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, Asphalt 8 and plenty of other 3D titles.
@xtcrefugee
That processor is limited to 1280×720 display max, so yes if you lower the resolution it will help.
Just as an example how active benchmarking was already able to improve Pine64 performance a lot: http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=389&pid=3410#pid3410
@Gabriel Banfalvi There is Odroid xu4 I install first ubuntu and the debian (more stable) I use it for webserver , webradio lighttpd mysql icecast php mintpenguins.com.Is so fast that for browsing and media player can repace my desktop easily.In android odroid xu4 with Samsung 5422 and Mali-T628 antutu score more than 50k and all that around 100$
@tkaiser
I think I should play with RPI-Monitor, it looks like a nice way to remotely monitor a board, and draws pretty and useful charts.
i don’t want to intrude but i’m a bit skeptical as to the point of focusing on those benchmarks. I do understand how benchmarks can be used to compare processing power between similar hardware archs, to evaluate cpu/gpu evolution, however i wonder if it’s as marginal (10%-30%) as with desktop hardware (in a price range).. i don’t play games on android or mobile devices so i really can’t say anything about that, to me it’s all mobile “casual” gaming, so performance is mostly irrelevant, either it runs fine or it doesn’t.. The fact that those “mobile” platforms can be used… Read more »
@Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft)
RPi-Monitor or something similar is IMO mandatory to make connections/relationships visible. Just tried it with comparing old/new throttling strategies for Pine64+: http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=389&pid=3466#pid3466
BTW: HW accelerated HEVC/H.264 video decoding and GPU acceleration already possible on A64. So if you choose relevant benchmarks (at least using the stuff the average user is interested in) at the moment the winner is Pine64
@pico bello Yeah its rather unfortunate. I am waiting on my Pine64 to get here to play with. My Pi2 I like and it does what I need it for at the moment (its doubling as a cheaper more capable security camera). But the biggest issue I have is so many of these boards have so many OSS issues. The latest blog post on Pi3 http://nullr0ute.com/2016/03/lipstick-on-a-pig-aka-the-raspberry-pi-3/ just wow… Even with the outstanding Pi community you can have issues that go unaddressed etc. I would love to see a solid performer with removable ram and some sort of decent bus. Of… Read more »
How well does an Odroid-C2 with Android play back 10bit h.264 with software decoding using MX Player?
I know MX Player can handle 4:2:0 10bit h.264, but I’m interested in if it can handle the CPU usage on Odroid-C2. (Both 1080p and 720p.)
No idea if it can software decode 4:4:4 720p 10bit h.264, though…
I can’t understand why you all are so hot for this cheap devices to be able to play 4K60Hz with 10 or even 12 Bit HDR and Dolby Vision but absolutely don’t care that none of these can be used to play back High Definition Audio. Not even with HDMI passthrough to a potent AVR.
The Pine64’s HDMI also supports CEC (at least according to their FAQ). They also started taking normal orders AFAIK. But saying Pine64 has got documentation is a joke. They have jack s***. Everything is user-contrib. Everything. Even OS images.
Thanks for the 3-way comparison. I can see the effort put in but it will benefit a lot of folks.
I bought a Pine A64+ 2GB. I wrote up my vendor & installation experience here:
https://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/blog/2016/06/08/installing-and-setting-up-a-pine-a64-a64-a64-with-2gb
I’m pretty sure the pi3 only has HDMI 1.3
HDMI 1.4 adds 4k support, which the pi does not. (you can overclock the pixel clock and force the mode, but it is not officially supported and may not get a stable lock.
In your comparison chart you listed C2 Linux support as “Official: Ubuntu 16.04 32-bit and 64-bit images with Linux 3.14 kernel”, however I have not found any 32-bit images for the C2 (official or otherwise). This proved to be a big problem for my project as needed dependencies were not available for arm64 and configuring for multi arch was a problem on C2 (possibly due to missed kernel patches). If you are aware of a 32bit system image for C2 I would really like to know where I can find it!
@B Smith
I can’t find it anymore. So either they dropped 32-bit OS support, or it was a mistake in the table (now removed).
So I don’t think they’ll be able to provide a 32-bit image, but you could try to talk to ODROID via their forums or IRC about your multiarch issue.
what this space “Quirky boots in 9 seconds on Pi3” http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00398
should be an iso forth coming soon
i am preferring to get odroid-c2 so if you can advise whether the forth coming quirky ARM iso WILL WORK ON THAT IT WOULD BE NICE.
preliminary inquiry in fortune town bkk didnt have about two months ago
released: Quirky pre-alpha on Raspberry Pi2 and 3 http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00399
and discussion at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=108132
and kitchen sink torrent at https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_Quirky_Xerus_Raspi
Quirky Linux 8.1 for Raspberry Pi2 and Pi3 released 23-Oct-2016 by Barry Kauler
“This is the first release of Quirky built for ARM boards, specifically the Raspberry Pi2 and Pi3. Brief release announcement:
Quirky 8.1 is built using Ubuntu Xenial Xerus 16.04 armv7 DEBs and some especially compiled PET packages such as SeaMonkey 2.40.
Version 8.1 is the first to be built for the ARM platform, specifically the Raspberry Pi2 and Pi3. Note that Quirky will not work on a Pi1. It is expected a build for the Odroid XU4 is coming soon.”
more at http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00441